Valentines Day Gifts

I was listening to the radio a few days ago, and they were talking about how men usually don’t like Valentine’s Day, because men usually have to go the extra mile for the woman and the woman does almost nothing for men in return. Then I watched Leno tonight and he mentioned the same thing, stating that back in the day Valentines was about men and women exchanging gifts equally, but now it’s more about what women get and what they want. She asked Beyonce, and of course the misandrist Beyonce (Bugaboo, Bills, Independent Woman, Irreplaceable) would say "women deserve it" and had no objection to the fact that men get little to nothing in return.

So is this a result of the feminist/man-hating movement designed to ostracize and emasculate men? Do women want everything? Are women these days too "proud" to do anything romantic for the man? Are women selfish?
wendy:

actually, my woman and i shared a wonderful valentine’s together. i will not be with a woman if she feels everything is a one way street designed for her benefit.

baba yaga:

well, i wouldn’t want to move to korea — i already stated it should be equal exchanges. anyways, look at baba yaga’s history of posts — she is always attacking the questioneer, especially if that person is a male. she’s a bitter man-hating misandrist.
baba yaga the man hater:

you’re wrong again. i would like to live here in the u.s., not korea. secondly, how come you couldn’t even answer the question? instead, you attack the questioneer personally, and you post a irrelevant example of something happening in korea — clearly sidestepping the question. did the truth and facts brought out in the question hit too close to home, you bitter, selfish, man-hater?
wendy:

the reason why i’m "complaining," is because i am conerned with the masses. my woman represents the minority of women, and not the mainstream — she doesn’t represent the women that want to be pampered and spoiled, and she isn’t selfish.
is it wrong that just because my woman believes in an equal valentines, that i should sit idly and not say anything about society saying that valentines should only be for the woman? are men not to be loved and cherished, and taken care of by their woman? just because it doesn’t effect me directly doesn’t mean i shouldn’t speak up about the issue.
wendy g:
actually, you initially asked me why i was "complaining" (if i’m not with a selfish woman). i answered. but to answer your latest question, for proof and statistics, all one needs to do is turn on the television, log on to the internet, flip through a magazine, and simply access any form of mass media to see that generally valentine’s day has been targeted mainly for men — usually only men doing something for the woman, and very little to nothing done in return. open your eyes and climb from under that rock.
baba yaga the misandrist:

at first i asked you why you never answered the question — then it dawned on me — you stated you are 46, and you don’t have a man! LOL! how was that lonely v-day of yours? LOL!

anyhoo, yes i do volunteer work at a children’s hospital, but that is irrelevant to the issue. you constantly say men here "whine" but in fact we are making valid arguments about double-standards that women overlook (when in their favor). by your logic, we can presume that all of your man-hating rants on this site are acts of "whining" and "moaning" (which they are). when a man brings up valid complaints about misandry, man-hating, and anti-male double-standards, you call it "whining." when you and the other man-haters do the same thing, along with male-bashing, you pretend that it’s merely standing up for ones rights and seeking equality.

you are a hypocrite and a fool.
baba yaga the lonely man-hater:

Looks like a struck a nerve! Revealing that you are a 46-year-old, bitter hag without a man, because most men don’t want a vile, angry, man-hating dramaqueen has really hit too close to home with you.

Baba Yaga has been reduced to rambling on in ALL CAPS and childish name-calling. LOL! Baba Yaga is defeated!

Also, correction, this is not "Yahoo Women’s Forum." This is Yahoo Answers, which is divided into numerous categories. I happen to post this in the Women’s Studies subcategory of Social Science.

As far as you allegations of being "uneducated" — I’m a young man that attends UCLA, one of the finest universities in the US — and will be graduating next year. Thanks for your concern.

How did that lonely V-Day of yours go, that you spent on the internet bashing men? LOL! It’s pretty obvious you’re jealous of me because I’m with a woman and enjoyed Valentines with her, while you’re 46, menopausal, and without a man in sight. Sucks to be you
Here are just SOME of the sources that support my claim that Valentine’s Day these days is geared more towards the wishes and appetites of women:

"This year, like every year, men will spend more money on Valentine’s Day gifts than women."

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/02/14/BUGU9O44C61.DTL

"Men are told they must get something of the candy/flower variety, and women, while they may get something for their significant other, ARE TOLD TO EXPECT PRESENTS."

http://www.athensnews.com/issue/article.php3?story_id=27340

honorable mention:

http://www.nbc10.com/news/11004288/detail.html?subid=10101521

(written by a woman)
Baba Yaga:
Congratulations on being able to post questions I’ve asked in the past. Yes, those questions are obviously in jest, and are more-or-less an experiment to see what reactions are incited as a result of these shock-value questions. I post many questions like that, and it’s funny that you didn’t list the shock-value questions that didn’t pertain to women at all. Secondly what I observe in the gym as disgusting behavior from women is my own right. I also go to the YMCA, which used to be a men’s only gym, until the man-hating movement demanded that women to be let in — while simultaneously creating women-only gyms. I have every right to be bemused by public obscenities at my gym.

Then there are questions like this one, that are actually serious topics. You continue to side-step the issue because you have no facts or counter-claim, and because you also lack experience in this topic as that you are lonely without a man. I honestly can’t blame a man for not wanting you.
Baba Yaga (continued):

Secondly, you keep harping on the television issue. Although one can argue that the television is filled with mindless dribble (which it is), you’d have to be a fool to claim one can not be educated from watching it.

Also, it’s amazing that you’d associate working out at the gym with being something a "non-intellectual" would do. By that notion, I’m willing to bet that you’re overweight, and that doesn’t surprise me at all. Having a steady work-out regimen is a and really REQUIRED for a healthy mind, body, and soul. A true intelligent person realizes that physical activity enriches the quality and state of their psychological and physical well-being. A fat, man-hating fool thinks only books, wikipedia entries, and internet postings are the only things necessarry for one’s personal enhancement.

Baba Yaga, the cellulite-ridden, menopausal, bitter man-hating hag is defeated! LOL!!
tanks:
i agree with much of what you said. and yes, baba yaga is a moron for saying "working out" is for dumb people.
many of those questions (unlike this one) are in jest — for example, the question regarding blacks being loud in the movie theater — i not only have black friends that i talk about this to, but i’m also mixed with black myself.

iridal:

i agree with much of what you said.
in closing, i am a "feminist" when you define feminism in its purest form. i am against discrimination against women and i think there should be equal rights for both men and women. what i AM against are man-haters who have hijacked the original meaning of "feminism," and have used it as a cover to bash men, emasculate men, employ double-standards against men, try to ruin men financially and psychologically, downplay the importance of fatherhood almost to the point of insignificance, and try to be "superior" to men. that is not feminism. that is misandry and femi-naziism. misandrists that have hijacked feminism are similar to terrorists whom have hijacked Islam.

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